Looking For Truth In All The Wrong Places * Open Thread *



Remember that old song “Looking for love in all the wrong places”? Well if you are looking for the truth in media or politics you are looking for “truth” in all the wrong places.

Except for rare instances, and then we remark on it in awe, you certainly don’t find much truth in media or politics.

While not perfect Ted Cruz is a good example to what happens when a politician tells you the truth. He is a perfect example of what a degenerate society,  a corrupt party and a debauched media does to a man they perceive as unwilling to play their underhanded and unprincipled game. A party, a media and a society that excoriates a man for uttering the horrible words: “vote your Conscience.” How dare he tell people that? What a terrible thing to say. Especially since too many people in the audience at the RNC Convention and the country abandoned any conscience long ago.

George Orwell nails how our corrupt media and politicians react to the truth.

In all honesty I haven’t always been the most truthful person I could and should have been. When I was a kid if a lie got me out of a punishment then a lie was the first thing to emerge from my mouth. God took care of that. He gave me a large, an oversized, conscience. A conscience that remembers. A conscience that bothers me long after the fact of a lie or wrongdoing.

I can’t remember most of what I did yesterday but I can remember a lie I told 50 years ago. And it still bothers me.

Because God burdened me with that oversized conscience I soon learned that telling the truth worked best for me. I noticed that it also gathered me respect where my lies had not. That was an early lesson, learned the hard way, that has stuck with me throughout my life. That’s not to say I don’t tell a thumper now and then – just not often and never maliciously. It haunts me if I do. Enlightened self protection.

Enough about me and back to the professional liars that don’t seem to have been burdened with consciences or integrity or respect for what they say. Wouldn’t you think the constant telling of lies would leave a nasty taste in the mouth? Or is a conscience  needed?  Although mud must taste like mud with or without a conscience.

We the people are usually neophytes compared to the professional liars we vote for or the media that lies to us endlessly. Our little lies are a stain on our souls – theirs are a stain not only on their souls, those that have one, but on the world.

Truth is mighty and will prevail. There is nothing the matter with this, except that it ain’t so ~Mark Twain, 1898

I think watching politics as he did made a cynic of Mark Twain – I know how he felt.

Over the years, little by little, the MSM has conditioned us to believe that lies are all right. Of course they don’t call them lies. That makes it more insidious IMO. They say, spin or misspoke or exaggerated. They talk as if dishonest campaign promises, are just business as usual. And so they now are.

People who expect campaign promises to be kept are portrayed as naïve at best and stupid at worst. So they would have us believe. If you can accept that then they’ve achieved the outcome they sought. Too much cynicism tends to make us think things are hopeless.

Even when some miscreant lies over and over again the MSM will find a reason to excuse the lie if the person is someone they want to protect. With most of the MSM that means a Democrat/Liberal person.

Republican/Conservatives are usually portrayed as liars. Just another MSM lie among so many.

Lord knows there are plenty of lying Republicans but they are no more prevalent than lying Democrats. They happen to be on the wrong side of the bias and so they are not protected from their dishonesty. In fact many are portrayed as liars whatever they say.

Someday a computer will give a wrong answer to spare someone’s feelings, and man will have invented artificial intelligence. ~Robert Brault

And how about the Presidents we’ve elected recently. How honest do you think they were or are? Probably depends which tribe you support. Most people tend to believe the Democrats if they belong to the Democrat tribe. Ditto for those that vote for the magic “R”.

Below is a cartoon with 2 presidents from each party. There is not a whole lot of “truthiness” going on from any of them. Some were or are bigger and better liars than the others. The fella on the far right is one of the biggest liars to ever hold office IMO. So he wins!

He is followed closely by Billy Bubba Clinton who has the distinction of lying not only to get himself into office for two terms but now lying to try to get his lying and dishonest wife into the White House.

Obama has the benefit of the openly biased and dishonest media slobbering over him from the minute he came on the scene. So with him you get a twofer in dishonesty. Politics and Media.

Honestly, can’t we do better than this?



32 Responses to “Looking For Truth In All The Wrong Places * Open Thread *”

  1. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Thank you for this excellent post, Marge. It really does say a lot abt where we are as as society these days, and it ain’t good.

    Speaking of lying, that is what this Administration has done as it has continued to bring in “refugees” to blend in all across this country, often without the knowledge of state leaders. If it wasn’t bad enough that ISIS themselves told us they were infiltrating these groups now German Intelligence is confirming it: http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/15/intel-confirms-isis-hid-among-refugee-hordes-flooding-europe

    Meanwhile, the citizens are paying the price, often women, as well as the financial burden being placed upon these countries.Why in the hell they aren’t keeping these refugees closer to home to be RETURNED home is mind-boggling, and raises deeper concerns…

    One thing is certain – out of at the very least a misguided sense of political correctness, these leaders are putting their own people at risk, a violation of the most basic responsibility they have.

    • piper Says:

      It won’t change until these so-called leaders and their families are hurt by these ‘refugees.’ Sad state of affairs.

      Glad to hear of your recovery progress. Take care!

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Too bad no one warned this would happen. /s

  2. Rabble Rouser Reverend Amy Says:

    Another great Federalist article is abt how Johnson/Weld are really blowing what has turned out to be their best chance at having a chance: http://thefederalist.com/2016/08/15/libertarians-miss-an-opportunity/

  3. piper Says:

    Here’s Joe Scarborough and his ‘helpfulness’

    ‘Turns out it wasn’t so tough for Scarborough, because that was the plan all along. Get perhaps the most damaged psyche to ever run for president the Republican nomination, because that was likely the only way perhaps the most corrupt Democrat nominee ever was going to survive the election. Not to mention the ratings. There’s gold in them feckless hills.

    So congratulations, Joe, you have received your reward in full.

    – See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/08/joe-scarborough-portrait-of-a-media-hack#sthash.fMK6GXTr.dpuf

  4. kenoshamarge Says:

    “The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie–deliberate, contrived and dishonest–but the myth–persistent, persuasive and unrealistic. Too often we hold fast to the cliches of our forebears. We subject all facts to a prefabricated set of interpretations. We enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought. ~ John Kennedy

    Don’t you wonder how much of what he said he actually believed and what was just for effect?

    Then again if he was around today he would be more of a moderate Republican than a Dem.

  5. kenoshamarge Says:

    Glenn Beck at RedState 2016: ‘If We Don’t Have Truth, We Don’t Have a Civilization’

    Saying that he wanted to challenge the audience to think differently, leading conservative talk show host, founder of TheBlaze, and best-selling author of the new book, Liars: How Progressives Exploit our Fear for Power and Control, Glenn Beck, delivered a powerful keynote address at the 2016 RedState Gathering that took place in Denver, Colorado on Saturday.

    In the one-hour speech, amazingly speaking without a teleprompter or notes, the overriding theme was “truth,” with Beck effectively and articulately — using several examples from both U.S. and world history — communicating that, “If we don’t have truth, we don’t have a civilization.”


    Quite honestly I used to think Glen Beck was just a cuckoo. After listening to his radio show off and on for several weeks I am no longer of that opinion.

    I don’t agree with him about everything but I agree with him about most things. Which surprises the dickens out of me. I certainly agree with him about the truth.

    IMO he’s worth a listen from time to time. Steve Deace is still my preferred radio host but that doesn’t mean Beck can’t teach us something. And they both are amazing in their knowledge of history.

    I am still contemplating ordering his book.

  6. kenoshamarge Says:

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      While he is no fan of Trump it’s been apparent ever since Cruz dropped out that Branco prefers Trump over Hillary. I can understand that even if I can’t vote for him because she’s so awful. And she is. It’s just that to me he does worse than just say mean things. He says insane things.

  7. piper Says:

    Wonder how Don the Con will spin this – recent NY poll has him down 30 points.


  8. piper Says:

    Meanwhile, another city Milwaukee is on fire. Thankfully I chose the freeway with all its construction to come home Sunday instead of using city streets.


  9. piper Says:

    A bit of gossip from People magazine

    Ivanka taking time off from campaign to vacation in Croatia with family including 4 month old baby.


    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Funny time to take time off – all is over in 3 months? WTH?

      And every time the lefty media talks about Ivanka and her father I wonder…

    • piper Says:

      My thinking at this point is that Hillary won but the news media will continue their hype and sensational stories for ratings. I’ve gotten to the point where I can read headlines and fill in the details without actually reading articles – nothing new just a constant rehash of same old same old.
      Still shaking my head that with all the talent in this country, 2 of the worst people have become prez. candidates with nothing to offer but continued degrading of our beautiful country.

  10. piper Says:

    We all know that both candidates are liars and it doesn’t matter which is the biggest and worst one but I wonder which one knows that they are lying and which one is delusional enough to believe all of the lies.

    End run on money
    Last month, Don the Con raised 80 million dollars which supposedly will be spend on his campaign but how much will he earn on those funds now that he has said he has been loaning monies from his personal account to finance his run. Smells fishy.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Something funny is going on with the money. Remember how he held onto millions raised for vets until he absolutely had to turn it loose? I suspect he’s played fast and loose with money all his life and this is no exception.

      She’s as corrupt an individual as has ever run for POTUS – he is equally corrupt IMO plus he’s not playing with a full deck. Some choices. I prefer not to choose. I had thought to vote for Gary Johnson but he’s looking more like a loon all the time.

      So many people and this what we have to choose from? Pathetic.

  11. kenoshamarge Says:

    Glen Beck talks to Sheriff David Clarke about the riots in Milwaukee

    This is well worth a listen.

  12. helenk3 Says:


    over 2500 soros internal documents released on line

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Wouldn’t it be great if there was something to put this evil old man in jail? Not that any of our corrupt “law” enforcement agencies like the FBI or the DOJ would do that to someone so helpful to their cause.

  13. helenk3 Says:

    lympic officials: Egyptian judoka Islam El Shehaby reprimanded, sent home after refusing to shake Israeli opponent’s hand – AP
    End of alert

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Finally someone does something about the rampant anti-Semitism at the Olympics. Now if someone would only do something about it on our college campuses…

  14. piper Says:

    mmmmmm – driving around the southern Milwaukee suburbs – no Trump yard signs, a few Hillary signs and loads of Stand with the Badge yard signs.

    • kenoshamarge Says:

      Glad to hear about the stand with the badge signs.

      Did you hear that the sister of the thug that was killed by the policeman wants the BLM to go to the suburbs and burn stuff? At least that’s what I think she said, she was hard to understand since she doesn’t seem able to speak English.

  15. helenk3 Says:

    I consider this man a domestic terrorist

    More: Lake County, Calif., officials say 40-year-old arrested for setting Clayton Fire was also tied to other fires set in the area

    Clayton Fire in Lake County, Calif., August 2016
    Lake County, Calif., officials announce arrest of 40-year-old man on 17 counts of arson for setting Clayton Fire

  16. piper Says:

    Trump vs Trump by Victor D. Hanson


  17. piper Says:

    Question – where’s all the money that Don the Con collected in July. 80 millions spent on what????? Did he really forgive the 50 million loan he made to himself or another lie to cover up a theft.


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